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A plebiscite on fluoridation

BLOG #648: A lot has happened in London in the 46 years since a significant majority of voters approved the fluoridation of the water supply. It’s time to ask again whether this is still seen as the best way to assure better dental health in children.

Monday, April 23, 2012 - London

In 1966, as part of the municipal election, voters in London approved by a margin of almost 60 per cent to 40 a proposal to fluoridate the city’s drinking water as a preventative measure against dental illness. The program began the following September and has continued ever since.

A lot has happened in London, in Canada, in the world in the intervening 46 years. One wonders whether a similar plebiscite would pass today.

That really is the crux of the argument – to be revisited again late this afternoon at a meeting of city council’s civic works committee – about whether it is appropriate to add what is, in large doses, a lethal poison to the drinking supply of every single person whether they wish it or not.

Governments do have that power; there is no denying that. Adding fluoride in the marginal quantities mandated by provincial regulation is perfectly legal once approved by a plebiscite in which at least 50 per cent of those eligible voted.

But in most cases where the law is universally applied, and certainly everywhere else in the health care field, there are exemptions or exclusions or the ability to opt out.

For example, in Ontario vaccination against diphtheria, tetanus and polio is required by law for all children attending school – unless exempted for medical or religious grounds and reasons of conscience. Immunization is not mandatory in this country, Health Canada says, even though we know those diseases are killers.

That doesn’t quite apply with fluoridation. If you drink the water you get the dosage. Whether you have perfect teeth or no teeth, there are no exemptions, only alternatives such as bottled water, are far, far more costly and, soft drinks and fruit juices, laden with teeth-decaying sugar.

Of course you could move, although fluoridation is hard to escape in Ontario. The drinking water consumed by an estimated 9 million residents – 75 per cent of our population – is fluoridated.

One thing that has happened in London since 1966 is enormous strides in the general health and well-being of its citizens. We generally eat better, if too much; we have better dental care. The medical and dental arguments made 46 years ago for fluoridation may not be so solid today.

How much of that improvement in our dental health is attributable to fluoridated water? Hard to tell, although that’s certainly one of the many points on which those who favour it and those who don’t disagree.

Indeed disagreement is one of the big difficulties in the debate that has been swirling here, and in many other Canadian communities, for several years. The two sides are polarized.

The pros stand on a long list of official government reports and studies which repeat, over and over, that fluoridation does not pose a health risk but are far less precise in showing unequivocal results. The cons toss around the possible dangers as if millions of people were on death’s door because they drank fluoridated water.

But what if I don’t want to? Should Londoners have a choice?

If the dental health of our children is the issue – and according to the Ontario Dental Association it is – are there alternatives to mandatory fluoridation in the water supply?

Generally the experts agree the direct application of a fluoride treatment to the teeth is far more effective. Middlesex-London Health Unit could put in place a fluoride treatment program for young children that probably would be more effective. Parents could opt out of the program if they wished. That’s essentially how the immunization program is handled in this province.

On that basis it would not be unreasonable for the civic works committee today to recommend that city council hold a plebiscite on fluoridation as part of the 2014 civic election. That would certainly provide ample time for an education program on the pros and cons.

The people voted it in; the people should be given an opportunity to vote it out if that is what the majority now wish.

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+1 #15 RE: A plebiscite on fluoridationkallie miller 2012-04-24 02:02
Maybe everyone interested should read this file to learn how many untruths come out of the mouths of our Medical Officer of Health and our Water Quality Manager who doesn't give a damn that we are being poisoned by our drinking water. He prefers to defend the board of health's position. He doesn't want to get the toxicology studies. He says they are not required. Another mistruth. Learn why in the pdf.

http://pamkilleen.com/app/download/2056384604/False+and+Misleading+Statements+About+Fluoride+Continue.pdf
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#14 RE: A plebiscite on fluoridationDianeDi 2012-04-24 01:32
Councillors passed a motion Thursday urging Health Canada to classify fluoride for drinking water as a drug.

Don't you find it interesting that Peel Region is asking Health Canada that the classification of fluoride as a drug be based on at least one long-term toxicology study to determine health impacts on humans.

The motion passed Thursday (January 12, 2012) calls on Ottawa to regulate fluoride used as a treatment for dental cavities in drinking water as a drug under Natural Health Product Regulations.

http://www.bramptonguardian.com/article/1278444--peel-pushes-fluoride-safety

Perhaps other Cities should be asking Health Canada the same question.
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#13 RE: A plebiscite on fluoridationDianeDi 2012-04-24 01:24
I agree with nyscof

My non-informed, apathetic neighbors shouldn't be allowed to decide that I should be dosed with fluoride, especially when I have already researched the issue and know it's bad for my health.

As voting goes these days, we should consider that 10% of the voters that actually turn out for these plebisite votes, will be deciding the fate for 100% of the population, whether informed or not.

Has anyone ever seen any subject so hotly debated before - decade after decade? Something so controversial, yet, it remains a forced medication, by ill informed, talking heads.

The precautionary principle should apply here. Show me the safety studies.
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+2 #12 RE: A plebiscite on fluoridationkallie miller 2012-04-23 16:50
Is it not the water department's duty to make sure we have safe water to drink and not defend the Medical Officer of Health's position on Fluoride? Show me the safety studies. That is all I ask. Why haven't they shown them to me just to shut me up? There are no studies. Please everyone encourage our councillors to realize the seriousness of this matter and recommend the Precautionary Principle and stop fluoridation of our water until the water department can produce safety studies. Simple.
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+1 #11 What else?Brian 2012-04-23 16:28
When I open the tap I expect clean water, nothing else. The ODA website states that "Fluoride is a mineral found in rocks and soil. When water passes over rock formations, it dissolves fluoride compounds that are present, releasing fluoride ions. Because of this, amounts of fluoride are naturally present in all water sources." So I ask, why are we adding it and what is the source of the fluoride being added. Vitamin D is extremely beneficial to our health and is added to milk to aid the absortion of calcium. Should we add that to our water as well? Heck, why not add Centrum to the water supply and cover all the bases. It's water, just ensure it is clean and here in London lead free.
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#10 One vote per person.Brenda Rowe 2012-04-23 14:38
speaking of plebiscites...w hen this issue came up I had a homework assignment about an upcoming election with a plebescite. I recall controversy about counting the plebescite. Was it one vote per person or one per household?
My mom made no bones about reminding my father she had rights and should be allowed to vote on the plebescite. It made for lively breakfast conversation. I didn't have a say in the matter. I just knew "they" whoever "they" were wanted to put something in my drinking water...My job was listen and learn.
well, at least my mom got her vote!
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+5 #9 Neighbors don't decide what drugs I takenyscof 2012-04-23 12:46
Fluoride is neihter a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. My non-informed, apathetic neighbors shouldn't be allowed to decide that I should be dosed with fluoride, especially when I have already researched the issue and know it's bad for my health.

It's not my job to educate my neighbors. Legislators shouldn't be allowed to play doctor and prescribe fluoride drugs to everyone regardless of health, age, weight, need or presence of teeth.

Fluoride-free diets (if that were possible) do not cause tooth decay.
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+1 #8 Let's vote on FlourideVicki Van Linden 2012-04-23 11:48
I agree with Ms Miller, that I would like the flouride out of our water as soon as possible, but also agree with Mr. Wells, that a plebiscite in the next municipal election may be the best we can hope for.

I do not want to ingest Flouride, and yet the relatively inexpensive Brita filters do not remove Flouride and I am told that only reverse osmosis units costing $200. or more are required.

I do believe that this has to do with informed consent, and at the very least, a pilot project of removing flouride for a number of years should be undertaken.
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+2 #7 Water Fluoridation: bad newsBarry Wells 2012-04-23 11:37
I too am against water fluoridation but I'm afraid another ballot question is the best we'll get.

At the very least, that's what London city council should decide.

Most present-day Londoners weren't even of voting age or alive in 1966.
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+2 #6 Fluoride interferes with normal collagen metabolismLeila Paul 2012-04-23 04:00
From a PubMed study:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7080075

....The mode of action of fluoride appears variable from tissue to tissue. The collagen fibres produced during fluoride toxicity would be defective due to inadequate cross-links. Thus sodium fluoride interferes with the maturation and normal metabolism of tissue collagen.
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